We can even make an even more bold assumption and suggest that two people, who killed people on auction with unknown drug was Karasuma Renya himself and… Vermouth. It fits absolutely perfectly.
Too much for a coincidence, right? And why so obvious? His most important agent who can won over Organization. In a car. Just to dispose the bomb. If James is That Person , it makes sense. Even the main trio. Also, right after that James took Jodie to witness protection program. Calm person, forward thinker. The question is — whose goal it is? Which means that Ano Kata may know.
Why he was given with such a thing? Sharon Vineyard was an act. Not of Conan himself, mind you. No, a final boss must be stronger than a hero to be a suitable climax. When the hero beats them, it shows how far they have come. And over the course of the series, there is one person who has consistently been portrayed in every appearance as being the superior detective to Conan: his father.
No, I'm not accusing Booker Kudo of being the boss. He knows Conan's secret, and if the boss knew that, the BO would be acting totally differently. But recalling parallel characterization, there is another person in nearly the same circumstance as Mr.
Kudo, who is an equal genius, and has a powerful position similar to those of Hakuba's family. We don't know exactly how old Heizo is, but his wife Shizuka is 42, and I've certainly seen adult couples with larger age gaps than 5 years. Heizo fits what of the boss's psych profile we have available. Heizo's certainly ruthless enough to be a crime lord; he punched his own son in the face and used him as bait for an entire gang of armed criminals.
Both think very far in advance: the boss ordered the assassination of a low level political candidate thinking he could become prime minister some day, Heizo lectured Heiji, knowing he would run off after the culprit a decent while later to get back at him, thus serving as a distraction for his own men.
Split due to character limits Heizo being the boss would explain why a policeman is so opposed to his own son becoming a detective. A criminal would hardly want a great detective to have unfetter access to his own home.
At the same time, Harley avoiding his harsh, overbearing father would explain why he hasn't figured all this out already. All of my Heizo character analysis up to this point has come from one case.
That's because Heizo has only had one focus episode in the entire series. That could itself be a clue. If Heizo had any more screen time, people might start to wonder about how someone of his detective skills hasn't seen through Conan and Anita.
But if he did, and he's the boss, he'd come after them, and that's the series end game right there. Speaking of Anita, she's never even seen Heizo in any capacity. That Black Organization sense of hers must make writing BO centric mysteries real tough. I wonder if Aoyama ever regrets coming up with it. But the final nail in this coffin in my eyes is, in fact, eyes. Specifically Gin's eyes. The first time Jimmy makes eye contact with Gin, he spends several panels in the manga or about half a minute in the anime waxing poetic about how horrifying and pure evil Gin's eyes are.
And indeed, Gin does have different eyes than almost any other character. They're very narrow and sharp, but the irises and pupils are small, and they're never drawn with any highlights. The idea that these specific eyes mean pure evil is reinforced by Hades Sabara from Jimmy's trip to London in the Holmes's Revelation arc, who has identical unhighlighted eyes. You've probably already guessed where I'm going with this, but there is exactly one other character in the series with eyes like this.
Man, as an anime watcher, using the manga translation's names that many times in such a short time period feels REALLY weird.
Funny how we both suspect one of the Great Detectives of being the Professor Moriarty of the series, but your reasoning is interesting and you could be right. There is, however, a potential flaw if you take the eyes as a clinching clue. You see, Heizo only has one eye.
I might be completely wrong here, but I believe people who lost an eye tend to squint. So that would Heizo's eye-shape a red herring. What the hell. I'm going full Art Bell now.
So what if the boss never took drug and his apparent agelessness is not due to any experimental drug, but a genetic defect. Or, as some geneticists would argue, a lack of defect which made him a biological immortal. Someone who can die of violence from murder to a car crash , but hardly ages and decays. And therefore next to impossible to die of natural causes. I know this out there.
However, it would explain two things: why the boss build a criminal empire and it would shed a light on APTX If the boss is a biological immortal, it would explain why he eventually went underground, because being known as a human anomaly might cause some pleasantness.
So the Black Organization might have started out as way to insulate and protect himself, but you know what effect isolation and loneliness can have on the human psyche. Secondly, he might want to know why he doesn't age and began researching himself, which lead to the creation of the drug. Something his underlings think is a brand new poison with the curious property that it can rejuvenate some people.
This is why I found it so interesting that Hakuba's uncle is the owner of a research laboratory. Just like that, I ensured readers of my blog will ever pick up Detective Conan. Believe me, these science fiction elements are only part of the main storyline with all of the single cases being clever or brilliant fair play detective stories. And remember, there's a character in the mermaid case who was rumored to be immortal with immortality being a plot-thread.
Ho-Ling mentioned in his comment below that there was something in that case with a name in a guestbook. I swear up, down, and side to side Heizo has opened both eyes at the same time at least once, but I can't for the life of me find the screenshot I swear I found when I first made this theory.
I guess this shot of Heizo with the opposite eye open from my first pic will have to do. JPG And besides, "he squints" seems like really weak justification for accusing someone of being one-eyed. When did he lose this eye? How did he lose it? Inspector Yamato of the Nagano P. Why's that?
I was a Conan an before I was a fan of you, so this probably isn't much of a reassurance, but the boss being a natural immortal wouldn't break the series for me. But it does raise several questions. If the boss ages so slowly he can pass for a teenager at , why did it take until he was 99 to go underground? And what of the silhouette of Karasuma we saw in Sunset Manor? It didn't look like someone Hakuba's age. Hunched back, gnarled fingers, crooked nose. Was that just a forgery?
Seems a bit unfair to put in a purely meta-level red herring with no narrative justification like that. Now Vermouth, on the other had, is obviously immortal. Somehow, I managed to confuse the two and the picture you linked to immediately brought the squinting, one-eyed man to mind and jumped the gun.
This is why I identify with Roger Sheringham. In his review of the Radfords' The Heel of Achilles , JJ was surprised how easy it used to be for someone to adopt a new name and begin a new life somewhere else. Something that became increasingly difficult to do in the modern, post-WWII world. If he was years when the series started and you go back 99 years, you arrive in the middle of the s.
Someone as perceptive as him could see the writing on the wall and decided to change tactics by going underground. The silhouette is how they imagined him when they listened to the story, but that's no guarantee he actually looks like that. Anyway, very much approach you humoring my little theory. I didn't serious expect it to survive closer scrutiny from much more knowledge Conan readers, but there was a sliver of hope that it hit close to the truth.
I'm still pleased with it. Nah, this is fun. Like I've said, I've read a lot of theories, but really thought out ones are few and far between. This has been a most stimulating discussion. Thinking over the series like this has actually advanced my own understanding of the Organization a bit. We've reached the point where the only disagreements between our theories are rather subjective, so I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.
Wait, no, ONE last question: If Karasuma had faked his own death and started over with a completely new identity at least once before becoming Hakuba, how did he arrange to publicly stay alive as Karasuma, an identity that received a sizable inheritance that probably rules out the possibility of it being assumed, until he was 99? You got me there. I told you this nebulous idea of him being a biological immortal is based on little more than a hunch without any real clues or hints to support it or fill in the finer details.
The name in the guestbook, in the Mermaid case, certainly is interesting when seen in this light, but it's very flimsy and hardly enough to support the whole idea on. So, yeah, we have to wait and see.
Either way, I'm glad I got this out of my system. This is a very interesting theory! I've followed "Case closed" in italian "Detective Conan" since I was a child but I have never formulated any hypothesis about the Boss, but the one you have proposed seems probable. Hakuba appears in it and he has a wealthy-looking older woman as his aide, similar to how Kaito has Jii-chan the old man who was Kaito's father's aide as the original Kaito I suggest watching the 12th and final episode of the "Magic Kaito" specials.
It's was so immersing. Thanks for the recommendation! I'll keep those episodes in mind when I finally get around to those Conan episodes Ho-Ling reviewed some time ago. I assume the episodes can watched as standalone without having seen the rest of the series? Yeah, it's an episodic series and you basically know already what Kaito does, which is steal jewels.
Magic Kaito is basically just Kaito copping different gems and we see the whole story from the criminal's perspective basically. In Magic Kaito: 24 episodes the some of the later episodes have interesting mysteries and hints of plot progression. The last few episodes were adapted from manga chapters Gosho made at the same time as the anime aired to promote it.
Sounds good! I love a good rogue story with a jewel snatching gentleman thief. I think I've heard this idea before, though it's certainly not as popular like the Mitsuhiko theory he's faaaar too smart for his age! But this theory is completely inconsistent with the depiction of Hakuba's character in Magic Kaito, so I don't think it works. That doesn't rhyme with your theory of him, as the Boss, wanting to hunt down KID. The personality, and motivations of Hakuba as seen in Magic Kaito just doesn't match the theory.
And while Aoyama wasn't sure at first how long the series would run he even considered stopping about two years in , the man can definitely plan, so I can't imagine him doing inconsistent characterization across Magic Kaito and Conan if he really wanted to have Hakuba as the Boss.
I mean, the recent volume re-read by Aoyama posted on the Sunday Every app was pretty interesting as he pointed out how he had already envisioned Haibara all the way in the beginning her silhouette is seen in the robbery story , and she wouldn't appear until volume 18!
So I simply can't imagine him being any less careful with making sure how Hakuba's shown if this theory were correct. I knew you were the most dangerous threat to my pet theory!
When the idea began to form, I expected there already similar fan theories out there, but google came up empty handed. I'm curious how others arrived at this idea.
A stiff shot of special pleading is coming your way: do Magic Kaito and Detective Conan actually take place in the same universe or do they take place in similar, but alternate, universes? When she reveals Conan the organization's plan to use Generic 's drug to manipulate one's memories to have complete control of the world, Haibara visualizes the boss as a black figure clutching a globe. Hanzawa-san visualizes Renya Karasuma as a shape, his crest and the pet crow on his left shoulder.
Rum is the second-in-command in the organization, meaning that Karasuma must trust Kanenori Wakita the most, enough to make him the highest ranking executive agent. However, Rum is scolded by the boss when his actions could threaten the secrecy of the organization. He trusts Gin enough to make him an executive agent in the organization, and for good reason: Gin is among the most loyal of the high-ranking members.
Gin follows the boss' orders closely and virtually never acts against the organization's greater interests, and in return the boss entrusts Gin to direct critical missions and key assassinations. The boss often issues orders to Gin directly by text message for him to disseminate to the others, and the two are implied to contact each other fairly often about instructions and suspicions.
Although Gin follows all orders from the boss, he acts on his own initiative on more than one occasion, as deciding to poison Shinichi Kudo with the recently approved APTX or to kill Vermouth if she does anything weird even if she is his favorite. For this reason, the FBI thought Gin would be able to lead them to the boss if they captured him. Vodka fears consequence to act without the boss' permission, but Gin takes full responsibility for his partner in the general oversight division.
Vermouth is known as Karasuma's favorite member by the other members although the reason for the favoritism is unknown, to the point of giving her limited independence and protecting her from other members who hate, mistrust, and wish to kill her. Bourbon reveals that there is some sort of connection between Vermouth and the boss, implying that her relationship with the boss goes further than merely being his favorite member. Bourbon also notes that he has arranged for her secret to be revealed to the whole organization in case something happens to him, and points out that the other members would be quite surprised if they knew the nature of the relationship.
However, even then, he still willingly sends her into deadly missions. He has also unintentionally allowed Chris Vineyard to undermine the organization by protecting someone she thinks is especially dangerous: Conan Edogawa. During a Halloween party, he discovered that Vermouth was up to something without the organization's knowledge, so he ordered Gin and Vodka to investigate.
Aboard the ship, a man that Vermouth blackmailed to murder a director began screaming someone called Vermouth was to blame. Later on, he sends a text message to Vermouth's cellphone: "It looks like I have given you too much freedom. Come back to my side, Vermouth. Chianti fears him even more than she proves to fear Gin and must work with Vermouth due to direct orders from the boss.
In order to avenge Calvados ' death, she would've killed Vermouth a long time ago, if she wasn't his favorite, but swears she'll definitely kill her in the end. She proves to be envious for what Kir has used to make him let her join their group four years ago. He promoted Kir because she had uncovered a spy and confronted him. The spy, Ethan Hondou , overpowered and tortured her for information, but Rena Mizunashi remained silent.
Although completely crippled, Rena bit Ethan's wrist to force him to drop his gun, and then killed him. The bite marks and Ethan's recording device corroborated her story, so he promoted her to the codename Kir in recognition of her loyalty and sheer savagery.
In truth, he was fooled. Hidemi Hondou had made a mistake and was about to be uncovered as a spy. Ethan, who had prepared appropriately ahead of time in case this happened, told Rena to tell the organization she discovered he was a spy and tried to confront him. Ethan then committed suicide after maiming himself and his daughter to prove that the story was true. He orders Kir to assassinate the politician Yasuteru Domon while holding an interview. However, his assassinate plot was averted by the combined efforts of the FBI and Conan.
Gin thought that Shuichi is hiding something and relays his doubt to him, who also agrees. He and Gin plan a test of Kir's loyalty. Meanwhile, Andre Camel becomes a suspect in a coincidental murder case. The organization hears about it, and taking advantage of the FBI's distraction, Gin calls out Kir and tells her his order. In order to regain his trust, she is to call Akai out to meet with her and kill him.
Kir meets with Akai at Raiha Pass and apparently kills him. However, he was fooled again. Conan, Akai, and Kir conspired to fake that death. He dispatches Bourbon to search for the escaped scientist Sherry. However, Tooru Amuro received his permission to execute a second, secret mission: verified Shuichi Akai's death by disguising himself as Akai and approaching his FBI colleagues.
In truth, with the indirect support of the National Police Agency , Rei Furuya has been persevering to turn in Shuichi to the organization to earn higher ranks to get closer to the boss.
He orders the execution of Shiho Miyano after she boycotted the development of APTX and rebelled against the organization. However, before she could be even executed, Sherry manages to escape. Naturally, he ordered the organization to hunt the traitor down and murder her, and to get rid of anyone associated with her. Conan later uncovers his phone number, but Ai Haibara warns him of the danger of calling it, likening it to Pandora's Box for his safety.
Of course she knows all this from the start, the email address and the person behind it, but this important secret is extremely dangerous, so Haibara has been hiding his true identity because she fears Conan will make a rash move and get himself killed. However, she doesn't fear her former boss more than Gin or Vermouth.
He had also separed her from Generic. Twenty-five years ago, he wanted to buy the pharmaceutical company where Atsushi Miyano worked as part of a drug development team, but it went badly and that company was suddenly shut down. During the time Atsushi and his wife Elena were running their private clinic, they received invitations from him many times, but Atsushi had always refused his offer.
However, nineteen years ago they went to his group's lab after all, so he sponsored their research to make APTX A plan was intended to create an acceptable reason to eliminate their eldest daughter Akemi , but backfired badly when her ability was underestimated.
As a consequence, their second daughter Shiho, the lead researcher for that project, ultimately defected and escaped.
0コメント